UnderGround Forums Mickey Gall post-loss statement

5 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 65223

Mickey Gall entered the UFC after having just one MMA fight, and beat Mike Jackson for the right to fight CM Punk; Perry won that one too. In the six fights since he has alternated win and losses, most recently dropping a gutty decision to Mike Perry. Afterward, he didn't complain about the officiating, reveal he had the flu AND leventy six injuries. Instead, he did it right.

5 days ago
1/1/01
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4 days ago
1/26/08
Posts: 18196

Hard way to learn the sport in the UFC, guy went to the UFC after 1 win, maybe goign to LFA or something would be good for him or him fighting some lower level guys for awhile so he can develop other apsects of his game. 

4 days ago
4/20/08
Posts: 23636

Dude shot a take down because he was admittedly worried about CM Punk on the feet

4 days ago
1/30/16
Posts: 3771

His striking actually looked good.

He was landed some good and heavy shots on Mike.

Just wasn’t strong enough and surprisingly got battered on the ground.

4 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 48346
Non N00B -

Dude shot a take down because he was admittedly worried about CM Punk on the feet

no...he wanted to win easy and he did

4 days ago
2/7/08
Posts: 3544

he doesnt belong in the ufc.

 

he should be fighting @ titan fc 

4 days ago
8/18/13
Posts: 10163

Sounds like a humble kid, his striking looked much improved, he was never ready for the experience Perry has though. He was unfortunately bought in as fodder for an exhibition match and hasn’t had the chance to be a rookie. He still has real promise, but needs 4-5 in a row against green competition to stand a chance in my opinion. Hope they give it to him 

Edited: 4 days ago
8/19/03
Posts: 29000
danybayamon23 -

His striking actually looked good.

He was landed some good and heavy shots on Mike.

Just wasn’t strong enough and surprisingly got battered on the ground.

This.

 

I was very surprised on both things you mentioned.   He was sharp on the feet, good kicks, good accuracy, but Perry has granite chin and walked through his shotshots.

 

Even more surprising is the ground, where Perry muscled his way out of positions and shrugged off Mickey's offense.

 

Gall is a talented grappler with good size and didnt look bad in this fight, but I'm wondering if it wouldn't be smart for him to take 6-12 months off to really work on his comprehensive game.  He's 6-3 and 28 years old.  He still has time to add tools, but if he doesn't make improvements, he's going to find himself stuck in these fights against guys like Perry and Sanchez getting out hustled.  

 

4 days ago
11/23/03
Posts: 1231

Guys, Mickey is 28, same as Perry.

He’s in his physical prime and his ceiling isn’t as high as other guys. It doesn’t mean he can’t be entertaining and make money in MMA.

This perception of Mickey as this fresh faced youngster getting thrown to the wolves doesn’t add up to me.

4 days ago
8/19/03
Posts: 29002
slaughteringyou -

Guys, Mickey is 28, same as Perry.

He’s in his physical prime and his ceiling isn’t as high as other guys. It doesn’t mean he can’t be entertaining and make money in MMA.

This perception of Mickey as this fresh faced youngster getting thrown to the wolves doesn’t add up to me.

I think he's at a juncture in his career where he's still young in fight years (low mileage on his chin) and with his submission ability, if he could add a striking gameplan to complement his frame, he could stand to win more fights, more easily.   

 

Whether he truly believes what he said about growing from this loss remains to be seen, but at least in my eyes, it was very telling about where his weaknesses lie.  Perry is a stout guy who possesses retard strength, so maybe he's not the best watermark, but Mickey looks to have a considerable strength disadvantage at welterweight and most likely could never make 155, so that's a big question mark.

 

Maybe I'm over rating Gall on this thread a bit, but those are just my observations.   I think he needs to branch out and hone his skillset in a place like Tristar or something like that. 

Edited: 4 days ago
10/9/10
Posts: 15821
WaltJ -
slaughteringyou -

Guys, Mickey is 28, same as Perry.

He’s in his physical prime and his ceiling isn’t as high as other guys. It doesn’t mean he can’t be entertaining and make money in MMA.

This perception of Mickey as this fresh faced youngster getting thrown to the wolves doesn’t add up to me.

I think he's at a juncture in his career where he's still young in fight years (low mileage on his chin) and with his submission ability, if he could add a striking gameplan to complement his frame, he could stand to win more fights, more easily.   

 

Whether he truly believes what he said about growing from this loss remains to be seen, but at least in my eyes, it was very telling about where his weaknesses lie.  Perry is a stout guy who possesses retard strength, so maybe he's not the best watermark, but Mickey looks to have a considerable strength disadvantage at welterweight and most likely could never make 155, so that's a big question mark.

 

Maybe I'm over rating Gall on this thread a bit, but those are just my observations.   I think he needs to branch out and hone his skillset in a place like Tristar or something like that. 

I think you’re right. Obviously Gall has serious potential. If we look at how quickly he has developed his striking, he’s clearly a talented kid who works hard and learns quickly. 

Does anyone know anything about the camp he’s in? I agree that he should branch out and see what he can learn from other gyms and coaches. I have heard him say many times that he’s a “Jersey Kid” and that he doesn’t really care to leave. He will definitely need to if he wants to fulfill his potential. One thing I have picked up from his fights is that he is always improving, but in a lot of his fights it seems like he either doesn’t have a clear game plan, or just doesn’t follow the one he has. In this fight it seemed like he was content to strike with Perry, and his only takedown attempts came out of desperation. So it’s like what was his actual strategy there? To outstrike Mike Perry with his newly developed striking game? 

Sort of reminds me of Kevin Lee a bit, guy is always getting better but he even said that he had “no clear direction”. So maybe Mickey needs that type of head coach to help him find his identity as a fighter. 

Edit: I don’t think you’re overrating Gall, but perhaps we all are... underrating Perry? Sounded funny as I typed it but hey it’s possible. 

4 days ago
7/28/09
Posts: 443

I think att would b the best fit for him .  He’s a bjj black belt and they know how to make killers out of specialists over there. Plus he’s from the east coast.  Maybe it would help him, maybe not tho. Only Mickey knows 

4 days ago
12/7/10
Posts: 2820

The kiss of death for any fighter is slowness, lack of explosion. Gall is fatally slow. Near zero explosion. Criticize Mike Perry all you want, but dude explodes in his punches. Mickey Gall also is not a skilled or intelligent tall guy fighter. He's a taller welterweight but he has no tall guy jab to frustrate a shorter fighter and I don't think he threw a single knee last night. That's failing to exploit your natural advantage.

The strength difference was the key. Mike Perry pretty much abused Gall on the ground. Threw him around like he was Nate Diaz and just powered out of any submission attempts.

This was not a fight that any matchmaker should be proud of. According to rankingmma.com, Mickey Gall is ranked #61 in the UFC welterweight division, and Mike Perry is ranked #21. If that is not a recipe for straight assault, I don't know what is.

Gall lost to a then 37 year old Diego Sanchez by TKO in 2019.

He still has a name thanks to the CM Punk fight, but I don't see fans clamoring to see him again, and there is almost no welterweight that fears what he brings.

He knows how to spark a cap though.

 

 

4 days ago
8/19/03
Posts: 29003
MasterofMartialArts -
WaltJ -
slaughteringyou -

Guys, Mickey is 28, same as Perry.

He’s in his physical prime and his ceiling isn’t as high as other guys. It doesn’t mean he can’t be entertaining and make money in MMA.

This perception of Mickey as this fresh faced youngster getting thrown to the wolves doesn’t add up to me.

I think he's at a juncture in his career where he's still young in fight years (low mileage on his chin) and with his submission ability, if he could add a striking gameplan to complement his frame, he could stand to win more fights, more easily.   

 

Whether he truly believes what he said about growing from this loss remains to be seen, but at least in my eyes, it was very telling about where his weaknesses lie.  Perry is a stout guy who possesses retard strength, so maybe he's not the best watermark, but Mickey looks to have a considerable strength disadvantage at welterweight and most likely could never make 155, so that's a big question mark.

 

Maybe I'm over rating Gall on this thread a bit, but those are just my observations.   I think he needs to branch out and hone his skillset in a place like Tristar or something like that. 

I think you’re right. Obviously Gall has serious potential. If we look at how quickly he has developed his striking, he’s clearly a talented kid who works hard and learns quickly. 

Does anyone know anything about the camp he’s in? I agree that he should branch out and see what he can learn from other gyms and coaches. I have heard him say many times that he’s a “Jersey Kid” and that he doesn’t really care to leave. He will definitely need to if he wants to fulfill his potential. One thing I have picked up from his fights is that he is always improving, but in a lot of his fights it seems like he either doesn’t have a clear game plan, or just doesn’t follow the one he has. In this fight it seemed like he was content to strike with Perry, and his only takedown attempts came out of desperation. So it’s like what was his actual strategy there? To outstrike Mike Perry with his newly developed striking game? 

Sort of reminds me of Kevin Lee a bit, guy is always getting better but he even said that he had “no clear direction”. So maybe Mickey needs that type of head coach to help him find his identity as a fighter. 

Edit: I don’t think you’re overrating Gall, but perhaps we all are... underrating Perry? Sounded funny as I typed it but hey it’s possible. 

I definitely underrated Perry.  

 

Most of us laughed about his GF cornering him and the stuff he was saying, but he was clearly stupid like the Fox once the fight started, because he had an answer for every situation.

 

Maybe this fight will be an evolution for both of them. 

4 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 37521
WaltJ - 
MasterofMartialArts -
WaltJ -
slaughteringyou -

Guys, Mickey is 28, same as Perry.

He’s in his physical prime and his ceiling isn’t as high as other guys. It doesn’t mean he can’t be entertaining and make money in MMA.

This perception of Mickey as this fresh faced youngster getting thrown to the wolves doesn’t add up to me.

I think he's at a juncture in his career where he's still young in fight years (low mileage on his chin) and with his submission ability, if he could add a striking gameplan to complement his frame, he could stand to win more fights, more easily.   

 

Whether he truly believes what he said about growing from this loss remains to be seen, but at least in my eyes, it was very telling about where his weaknesses lie.  Perry is a stout guy who possesses retard strength, so maybe he's not the best watermark, but Mickey looks to have a considerable strength disadvantage at welterweight and most likely could never make 155, so that's a big question mark.

 

Maybe I'm over rating Gall on this thread a bit, but those are just my observations.   I think he needs to branch out and hone his skillset in a place like Tristar or something like that. 

I think you’re right. Obviously Gall has serious potential. If we look at how quickly he has developed his striking, he’s clearly a talented kid who works hard and learns quickly. 

Does anyone know anything about the camp he’s in? I agree that he should branch out and see what he can learn from other gyms and coaches. I have heard him say many times that he’s a “Jersey Kid” and that he doesn’t really care to leave. He will definitely need to if he wants to fulfill his potential. One thing I have picked up from his fights is that he is always improving, but in a lot of his fights it seems like he either doesn’t have a clear game plan, or just doesn’t follow the one he has. In this fight it seemed like he was content to strike with Perry, and his only takedown attempts came out of desperation. So it’s like what was his actual strategy there? To outstrike Mike Perry with his newly developed striking game? 

Sort of reminds me of Kevin Lee a bit, guy is always getting better but he even said that he had “no clear direction”. So maybe Mickey needs that type of head coach to help him find his identity as a fighter. 

Edit: I don’t think you’re overrating Gall, but perhaps we all are... underrating Perry? Sounded funny as I typed it but hey it’s possible. 

I definitely underrated Perry.  

 

Most of us laughed about his GF cornering him and the stuff he was saying, but he was clearly stupid like the Fox once the fight started, because he had an answer for every situation.

 

Maybe this fight will be an evolution for both of them. 


#20 guy with a ton of experience fighting #60 guy. If Perry needed a world-class corner to win, then he's in some serious career trouble!
4 days ago
4/20/08
Posts: 23641
Winston Wolf -
Non N00B -

Dude shot a take down because he was admittedly worried about CM Punk on the feet

no...he wanted to win easy and he did

Look, I am all for it in almost all cases.....but it was CM Punk lol

4 days ago
11/10/18
Posts: 8393

He’s way too physically weak to impose his grappling on anyone in that division. Too big to go down and probably can’t add mass at his height and stay at 170. I think he needs 1-2 years fighting lesser comp and working on strength training. He’s never going to be a top guy but that would help. 

4 days ago
8/18/13
Posts: 10167
Liyon -
WaltJ - 
MasterofMartialArts -
WaltJ -
slaughteringyou -

Guys, Mickey is 28, same as Perry.

He’s in his physical prime and his ceiling isn’t as high as other guys. It doesn’t mean he can’t be entertaining and make money in MMA.

This perception of Mickey as this fresh faced youngster getting thrown to the wolves doesn’t add up to me.

I think he's at a juncture in his career where he's still young in fight years (low mileage on his chin) and with his submission ability, if he could add a striking gameplan to complement his frame, he could stand to win more fights, more easily.   

 

Whether he truly believes what he said about growing from this loss remains to be seen, but at least in my eyes, it was very telling about where his weaknesses lie.  Perry is a stout guy who possesses retard strength, so maybe he's not the best watermark, but Mickey looks to have a considerable strength disadvantage at welterweight and most likely could never make 155, so that's a big question mark.

 

Maybe I'm over rating Gall on this thread a bit, but those are just my observations.   I think he needs to branch out and hone his skillset in a place like Tristar or something like that. 

I think you’re right. Obviously Gall has serious potential. If we look at how quickly he has developed his striking, he’s clearly a talented kid who works hard and learns quickly. 

Does anyone know anything about the camp he’s in? I agree that he should branch out and see what he can learn from other gyms and coaches. I have heard him say many times that he’s a “Jersey Kid” and that he doesn’t really care to leave. He will definitely need to if he wants to fulfill his potential. One thing I have picked up from his fights is that he is always improving, but in a lot of his fights it seems like he either doesn’t have a clear game plan, or just doesn’t follow the one he has. In this fight it seemed like he was content to strike with Perry, and his only takedown attempts came out of desperation. So it’s like what was his actual strategy there? To outstrike Mike Perry with his newly developed striking game? 

Sort of reminds me of Kevin Lee a bit, guy is always getting better but he even said that he had “no clear direction”. So maybe Mickey needs that type of head coach to help him find his identity as a fighter. 

Edit: I don’t think you’re overrating Gall, but perhaps we all are... underrating Perry? Sounded funny as I typed it but hey it’s possible. 

I definitely underrated Perry.  

 

Most of us laughed about his GF cornering him and the stuff he was saying, but he was clearly stupid like the Fox once the fight started, because he had an answer for every situation.

 

Maybe this fight will be an evolution for both of them. 


#20 guy with a ton of experience fighting #60 guy. If Perry needed a world-class corner to win, then he's in some serious career trouble!

If anything the rankings show how impressive it was that Gall went the distance

3 days ago
6/21/09
Posts: 9204

Kirik, it would take less than 30 seconds to proof read what you wrote there. Zero effort. WTF are you even saying.

3 days ago
8/10/05
Posts: 40671

Perry is a huge step up from Phil Brooks.

3 days ago
9/24/09
Posts: 1721

I like Mickey but he is a regional fighter at best. 

3 days ago
12/27/11
Posts: 2187
Galanis -

Kirik, it would take less than 30 seconds to proof read what you wrote there. Zero effort. WTF are you even saying.

He checked it at least leventy six times.

2 days ago
10/8/13
Posts: 4067

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