UnderGround Forums Jon Jones tested 42 times in 2019

2/3/20 10:49 PM
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According to Noviztky. In such a case like Jones, why wouldnt they disclose the results to see the pico-ing that is apparently n Is there a way to verify this? USADA posts the number of tests the conduct, but what about NSAC ad CSAC

From Jones today:
"At one point in 2019, I did almost 30 drug tests with USADA alone," Jones told MMA Junkie. "I also had two other drug testing agencies that were drug testing me. With USADA alone, I was one of the most heavily drug-tested athletes in all of sports"

From USADA:
list reveals that it is shelved bantamweight fighter Sean O'Malley who was the most tested in 2019 at 26 times. Following him are former featherweight champion Jose Aldo and welterweight fighter Chance Rencountre, who were both tested 17 times and didn't test positive for any banned substances.

2/3/20 10:50 PM
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Sauce

https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2020/02/jon-jones-im-one-of-the-most-heavily-tested-athletes-in-sports

2/3/20 10:59 PM
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Jones by Picogram 

2/3/20 11:44 PM
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Novitsky ignores Jones' Picogram exams. 

2/4/20 1:05 AM
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Does it really matter how many times he gets tested? Regardless of the results he's not getting any real punishment. 

2/4/20 1:14 AM
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Pinch of salt. ??

2/4/20 1:41 AM
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Dog and pony show.

2/4/20 2:15 AM
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AnotherFailedTest -

Pinch of salt. ??

a grain of salt, imagine this

2/4/20 2:37 AM
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Don J - According to Noviztky. In such a case like Jones, why wouldnt they disclose the results to see the pico-ing that is apparently n Is there a way to verify this? USADA posts the number of tests the conduct, but what about NSAC ad CSAC

From Jones today:
"At one point in 2019, I did almost 30 drug tests with USADA alone," Jones told MMA Junkie. "I also had two other drug testing agencies that were drug testing me. With USADA alone, I was one of the most heavily drug-tested athletes in all of sports"

From USADA:
list reveals that it is shelved bantamweight fighter Sean O'Malley who was the most tested in 2019 at 26 times. Following him are former featherweight champion Jose Aldo and welterweight fighter Chance Rencountre, who were both tested 17 times and didn't test positive for any banned substances.

could have been 30, or it could have been 3, who knows with that crock of shit loser...

2/4/20 2:48 AM
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When you fail multiple tests, they usually test you more than others?

 

2/4/20 5:04 AM
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someone on reddit posted every top 10 in each division and how often they were tested in a year I believe. Jose Aldo was tested 19 times compared to like 8-10  from others in the division. Yoel Romero was tested way less to Costa and Izzy and Whittaker.  interesting chart. 

2/4/20 5:33 AM
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redruM14 -

Does it really matter how many times he gets tested? Regardless of the results he's not getting any real punishment. 

Word 

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lol, Jeff is known bent.

He's as bad as the scumbags cheating, perhaps worse the way he constantly tries to cover shit up.

2/4/20 5:39 AM
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someone on reddit posted every top 10 in each division and how often they were tested in a year I believe. Jose Aldo was tested 19 times compared to like 8-10  from others in the division. Yoel Romero was tested way less to Costa and Izzy and Whittaker.  interesting chart. 

Holly Holm was tested a shitload 

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3,499,999,950... roughly the amount of women Bill Cosby DIDN'T drug and rape.

2/4/20 9:33 AM
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redruM14 - 

Does it really matter how many times he gets tested? Regardless of the results he's not getting any real punishment. 


Multiple fighters are now testing for picograms and not punished.

A picogram is one/trillionth of a gram. Think about that. Think about your 30g protein shake. Take 1/30th of that. Now break that 1 gram down one trillion times. That's a picogram.
2/4/20 10:36 AM
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Test him 100x and considering they are allowing him to dope of course he is "clean".

 

It seems integrity is a forgotten thing because they must be nuts to think they have a shred of it left after the blatant BS they have pulled. 

2/4/20 10:58 AM
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KaiTangata - 

Test him 100x and considering they are allowing him to dope of course he is "clean".

 

It seems integrity is a forgotten thing because they must be nuts to think they have a shred of it left after the blatant BS they have pulled. 


Did it bother you that they let Nate fight against Masvidal, or would you have preferred a 2 year ban?
2/4/20 11:22 AM
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probably tested positive 42 times

2/4/20 12:35 PM
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Any exempt fighter fighter will be subject to this kind of extensive testing to make sure he is never outside of his range.

2/4/20 2:34 PM
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oranos - 

Any exempt fighter fighter will be subject to this kind of extensive testing to make sure he is never outside of his range.


Except they are lying. Jones wasnt even the most tested fighter under USADA in 2019. He claims 30 USADA tests, but he didnt even get anywhere close to that.
2/4/20 5:03 PM
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Thats a lot of positive tests.

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redruM14 - 

Does it really matter how many times he gets tested? Regardless of the results he's not getting any real punishment. 


Multiple fighters are now testing for picograms and not punished.

A picogram is one/trillionth of a gram. Think about that. Think about your 30g protein shake. Take 1/30th of that. Now break that 1 gram down one trillion times. That's a picogram.

Jon tested positive not for just one, but 33 picograms of the M3 metabolite of oral turinabol. How many picograms of the M3 metabolite are found in a gram of oral turinabol?How many milligrams of oral turinabol are typically ingested daily throughout each cycling phase?Does M4 not have the longest window of detection being detected for up to only a month and a half at the time of his testing pool?Bidown further for us if you will. How much oral turinabol would Jon have to had ingested within a week for even one picogram to be detected at the time of his test failure?
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2/5/20 4:28 AM
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Corn Pop -
redruM14 - 

Does it really matter how many times he gets tested? Regardless of the results he's not getting any real punishment. 


Multiple fighters are now testing for picograms and not punished.

A picogram is one/trillionth of a gram. Think about that. Think about your 30g protein shake. Take 1/30th of that. Now break that 1 gram down one trillion times. That's a picogram.

What really makes this interesting is what will happen when the testing starts unintentionally detecting contamination that are results of cross contamination. The improvement of detecting substances greater than  One trillionith of a gram plus the re-testing of previous samples will most likely being up new positive tests for new substances aswell.My question is who is the authority that draws up the thresholds for the quantities of what's considered positive and banned.

Most of these supplement facilities share or produce other substances that leave traces in their processing,storage, and handling.I believe the rise in Clenbuterol detection(and some cases Ostarine) in particular may be attributed to a by product or cross contamination as Clen can be from the Meat production and that untraceable complex chain of production

Ostarine can be present from other supplements produced by the same company(for example MHP makes OTC protein,nitric,and other recovery and anabolic supplements  but also produce banned pro testosterone products like "A-bomb","Sarm-x",and "T -bomb")So these supplements go through the same vats and processing equipment it would be impossible to negate the points of contamination.

Where does the threshold for the amount of a substances begin and who decides what is considered enough to register as positive.